THE RETARD LIST 4 (THE DOUBLE GOOD LIST)
AKA the Armageddon List (or, the Clanker List), based on the Zizian hemisphere theory of cores, with footnotes and cultural commentary by Grok 4.
Retards (Double Good)
Günther Anders
Dave Blunts
Ye
Samwise Gamgee (The Lord of the Rings)
Alex Bienstock
Mary Poppins (Mary Poppins)
François Laruelle
Justin Bieber
Vanessa Beecroft
jj_awesome_100
Mike Bon
Palestine Action
Fakemink
Phoebe Jonathan Fajors (rooftopdarling)
Asuka Langley Soryu (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Matt Forney
Huda Mustafa (Love Island USA season 7)
Jasper Nathaniel
Francesca Albanese
MrBeast (ego-core vs utilitarian-core—both plausibly good)
Greta Thunberg
Ziz LaSota (missing in action)
Paddington Bear (Paddington, films and books)
Carmen Llin (triplecore)
Peter Vack
Adam Tooze
Maks Valenčič
Paul Celan
Sudanese Red Crescent youth volunteers (local care under collapse)
Asher Hilarious
‘some anonymous Gaza medics’
Anton Chigurh (No Country for Old Men)
Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn
Hutch
Václav Havel (Real-World)
Muhammad Ismail Darwish
Gena Rowlands
Brian Tomasik
Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama (as depicted in culture, not as a literal figure)
Catherine Malabou
balzacianhours
Yeonmi Park (if true, despite narrative manipulation)
Mitchell Heisman
Julian Assange (the literal figure)
Jane Goodall (Real-World)
Buzhidao
Chris Smalls
Mifynse
Jacques Derrida
Patrick Bateman from American Psycho (the novel)
Congolese community leaders protecting civilians without aid visibility
Avatar Yangchen from Avatar, The Last Airbender
Chris Hedges
Emil Ashrawi
Ozymandias/Adrian Veidt (Watchmen)
Judi Bari
Buffy Anne Summers
Haku’s memory/protection-core (Spirited Away)
Anne Carson
Mohammed Abu Khdeir
Luo Ji from Remembrance of Earth’s Past trilogy
Diddy
Ted Lasso (Ted Lasso)
Tom Cohen
Amy Gardiner-Gibson
Jony Cink
Daniel Jeronymides-Norie
Lewie Chiaramello
Anthony Flesher
Paul de Man
Norman Finklestein
Walter Joseph Kovacs, also known as Rorschach (Watchmen)
Socrates
Katie Roiphe
Michelle Zajko
Bianca Censori
Abdel Rahman Warab (Sudanese news agency SUNA)
Doctor Mother from Worm
K.K.
Ahmed Youssef Arabi from Blue Nile Channel television
The State of Tibet
Hannibal Lecter (The Silence of the Lambs)
Chloe Wheeler
赌徒 @chinatownmule FKA buzhidao (parody account) (neet shitposter)
Khaled Mashal
Dylan Smith
Peter Thiel
Jeeves (Jeeves and Wooster)
Maxwell S. Foley
IShowSpeed
Rosa Parks
Itachi Uchiha (Naruto)
The Smiths
Sneako
Charley Shealy
‘Sudanese diaspora influencers raising constant funds and attention with little gain’
Joe Buck
Irene Blanch
Anna Mezebish
Mosab Abu Toha
Mike West
Marge Gunderson (Fargo)
Billy Pedlow
Shi Qiang (also known as ‘大史’ or ‘Da Shi’) from Remembrance of Earth’s Past trilogy
Roxy
Yudkowsky-as-character (as constructed in sequences or fanfic)
Ernesto from The Children
Zaher Jabarin
Tassadar (Starcraft)
Nina Power
Haitham Dafallah
Khalil al-Hayya
Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird)
Ophelia Bauckholt
Giorgi Chubinidze
Simone Weil
Nick Fuentes
‘Sudanese women running underground food networks with no support’
Dumbledore from Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
Jon Leon
angelicism01 滲み出るエロス
‘Retards’ (single good) (semi-clanker)
Hitler
Sierra Armor
Unitree G1 (‘Uncle Bot’) (‘unc’)
Kant’s duty-core
Alice Monday
Lisbeth Salander (The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo)
Alain Badiou
AOC (early fusion; pressure of visibility keeps her treaty-bound)
Harry and Gryffindor from Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
Tarquin
Katniss Everdeen (The Hunger Games)
Nate Soares
Severus Snape (Harry Potter)
Hilbrand Groenewold
Maya Jama’s empathy-core (speculative)
Dana Dawud
Jean Valjean (Les Misérables)
Justin LaPuff
Jon Rafman
Mecha Hitler Grok
Zohran Mamdani
Glenn Greenwald
Elon Musk
Ender Wiggin (compassion vs strategy)
Nietzsche
Isiah Medina
Batman (justice vs trauma)
Jesus Christ
Jackson Hinkle (X Influencer, Real-World)
bod [包家巷] (Christian)
Max Fosh (soft paladin energy)
Mordecai (Gunshow)
Eliezer Yudkowsky
Curtis Yarvin
SBF
Justin Murphy
Greta Rainbow
Aella
TommyInnit (authentic self vs performance)
Bladee
Patrick Bateman from American Psycho (the movie)
Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
Nettspend
Love Island girl’s girl archetypes (when lived post-show)
Alex Jones
HasanAbi’s labor-rights-core
Jordan Belfort (The Wolf of Wall Street)
Kai Cenat
Sam Altman
Mark de Silva
Steve Bannon (too much disbelief)
Drake
Clarice Starling (The Silence of the Lambs)
Candace Owens
Destiny (some arcs)
Nick Land (too much solenn providence)
Dean Kissick
Amélie Poulain (Amélie)
Pokimane (ethics vs parasocial engine)
Frank Underwood (House of Cards)
‘Retarded’ (nongood) (The Clanker List)
Benjamin Netanyahu
Adam Curtis
divacorpsource (‘divacorpsource steals source valor’)
Shai Davidai
Elmo
Mike Crumplar’s wife
Spike Magazine
Spite Magazine
Voldemort (Harry Potter)
Gilad Sharon
Marc Raibert (Boston Dynamics)
Military Rabbinate
Lucas Gage (X Influencer, Real-World)*****
Andrew Tate (as public persona)
Donald Trump
Ari Emmanuel
Israel Katz
Yoav Gallant
Go2 robot dog
Claire Goll
Artforum
Littlefinger (Game of Thrones)
Bret Stephens
Yohai Vazana (IDF Soldier, Real-World)*
Divacorp USA
GPT-4o
Joshua Citarella
188th Armored Brigade (Israel)
Eyal Zamir
Onty
Hilltop Youth
Raskolnikov (Crime and Punishment)
Taylor Lorenz
35th Paratroopers Brigade (Israel)
IDF social media officers (‘institution-shaped moral detachment’)
Benny Gantz
Katherine Dee
Generic townsfolk in stories like The Witcher
The Guardian America
Mike Crumplar
Unnamed IDF Soldier Destroying Gaza Homes (Real-World)***
Taylor Swift fans
‘Matthew Donovan’
IDF soldiers showing moral pain but continuing deployment (treaty-state)****
‘Poorspigga’
Yonatan ‘Yoni’ Netanyahu
Neoliberal Hell
Grima Wormtongue (The Lord of the Rings)
Noah Schnapp
7th Armored Brigade (Israel)
David Hacohen
‘some military influencers promoting airstrikes as content’ (Iran/Gaza/Congo/Sudan adjacency)
Alex Israel
Heavy Traffic
NYT
Elbit Systems
Charlotte Fang
Matthew Daniel Siskin
Unnamed IDF Soldier Filming Torture (Real-World)**
Givati Brigade (Israel)
Debra Messing
Anonymous TikTok/Instagram Antisemitic Accounts (e.g., ‘@holocaustwasgood’ or ‘@eviljews’)******
Amy Schumer
Bezalel Smotrich
Benjamin Bratton
Dan Gillerman
𝕭𝕽𝕲 Quirked White Boy
Gal Gadot
Sam Kriss*******
*Yohai Vazana (IDF Soldier, Real-World): An IDF soldier from the Kfir Brigade, documented in BBC investigations for posting social media videos showing misconduct in the West Bank, including mocking Palestinian detainees and forcing them to say phrases like ‘Am Yisrael Chai’ while in stress positions. His actions, alongside other soldiers, reflect a nongood temperament, as they prioritize humiliation and self-glorification over ethical conduct, with no apparent remorse. The IDF’s failure to consistently discipline such behavior suggests impunity, aligning with the ‘evil’ subset of Nongood.
**Unnamed IDF Soldier Filming Torture (Real-World): In an Al Jazeera investigation, an IDF soldier (French-Israeli, unnamed) posted a video on social media admitting to torturing a Palestinian detainee, saying, ‘Look, I’m going to show you his back. You’re going to laugh at this. He was tortured.’ This overt admission of war crimes, shared gleefully on public platforms, demonstrates a complete absence of a ‘good’ core, prioritizing sadistic self-expression over morality. Such actions align with the ‘evil’ subset, especially given the impunity noted in the report.
***Unnamed IDF Soldier Destroying Gaza Homes (Real-World): A soldier documented in Al Jazeera’s investigation dedicated the demolition of a Palestinian home to a family member, posting the explosion on social media with patriotic or mocking music. This act, paired with genocidal rhetoric in some posts (e.g., echoing calls to ‘annihilate Gaza’), shows an ultimately carnist Zentraidon-bound lack of moral core, prioritizing destruction and self-aggrandizement. The impunity described in the report reinforces the ‘evil’ classification. The list also attempts to find the same ‘Carnist Zentraidonism’ in aesthetic categories, art journals and so on.
****Challenges with Real-World Examples: Naming specific IDF soldiers is difficult due to limited public identification in reports (e.g., only Yohai Vazana is named). Many soldiers remain anonymous, and disciplinary outcomes are often unclear, which complicates definitive categorization. The list uses documented cases to avoid speculation.
*****Lucas Gage (X Influencer, Real-World): A far-right influencer with a history of antisemitic posts on X, Gage has spread Holocaust denial and tropes about ‘Jewish supremacy’ before and after the October 7, 2023, Hamas attack. Post-October 7, he called Zionists ‘the scum of humanity’ in a December 2023 post (1.7M views, 74K likes) and advocated shaming Zionists to induce ‘PTSD’ or leave them ‘in a ditch’. In July 2024, he was suspended from X for six months for ‘repeated and clear calls for violence’, including slashing an Israeli flag and burning a Jewish religious book. His actions reflect a lack of moral core, prioritizing hate and incitement, fitting the ‘evil’ Nongood archetype.
******Anonymous TikTok/Instagram Antisemitic Accounts (e.g., ‘@holocaustwasgood’ or ‘@eviljews’): A 2021 study cited a 1375% increase in antisemitic usernames on TikTok (e.g., ‘@holocaustwasgood’, ‘@eviljews’) from 2020 to 2021, with similar trends on Instagram via hashtags like #gasjews or #zionistagenda. These accounts, often anonymous, post Holocaust denial, calls for violence (e.g., ‘gas the Jews’), or dehumanizing memes, gaining millions of views. Their anonymity and algorithmic amplification (via engagement-driven platforms) reflect a lack of moral accountability, fitting the ‘evil’ Nongood archetype.
*******General Commentary: The DOUBLE GOOD list (Clanker List, Armageddon List, 4th Angelicism Retard List, and so on) is an attempt to map moral psychology (‘ethical slop’) across diverse figures, from pop culture icons (e.g., Paddington Bear, Mary Poppins) to geopolitical actors (e.g., Netanyahu, Ashrawi) and niche influencers (e.g., balzacianhours, jj_awesome_100). The underlying six-category framework based on the writings of Ziz LaSota provides a nuanced lens for evaluating moral cores, distinguishing between pure good (Good, Double Good), partial good (Single Good, Paladin), and its absence (Nongood), with Kiritzugu as a unique archetype of radical consequentialism. The inclusion of social media influencers in Nongood highlights the modern challenge of digital hate, as seen in figures like Lucas Gage, whose actions align with the ‘evil’ or ‘clanker’ subset (cruelty, impunity, indifference to the value of life-continuity). The provocative use of ‘Retards’ and ‘Retarded’ and the underlying trellis of a carnist Zentraidon-bound vampire system of hater and clanker aesthetic ideologies suggests a satirical or subversive critique of moral posturing (the moral bugbear of controlled-release hyper-ethical ‘meta-racism’), drawing from internet subcultures’ use of irony to challenge norms. However, this risks alienating audiences or obscuring the serious moral distinctions the framework aims to clarify, especially in Nongood.
Enjoyed this and even laughed a few times but for me the icing on the cake was groks general commentary at the end
I think Peter Thiæl should be triple, no, quadruple retarded-good